I was wondering if some of the digitizers would mind looking at this website and giving your professional opinion about this software? It is very inexpensive from what I can tell so I appreciate
your opinion greatly!http://www.data7consultancy.co m/emb...
19807 Dear all
I'm Dave from Data 7 and I wrote this
software. I'm based in Nottinghamshire
in the UK. Its a package that I wrote some
time ago as I've been in embroidery
for the last 15 years. I've moved in
to web site designing & hosting now so
decided to give my embroidery conversion
package away for free and sell the Data 7
EDS Package for only £25 ($39) to help
people start embroidery. I designed it to
be simple. It has monogramming, point and
block editing and allows you to scan and
digitise over the top of an image. It uses
our condensed format making it easy to
resize designs too. You can also digitise
your own alphabets, create you own fill
patterns etc...
Sorry I don’t have the manual but you can
download some help files from the link
below. I used to train people on site
after purchase but that was when I sold it
for over £1000. I now sell just at £25
to cover my costs and to help you guys.
You can download the Data 7 EDS from
download.com (see link below).
You can also register with us using a link
below and you can download the software
there too from your user area.
The Eval version is fully functional apart
from it cannot export. Please feel free
download the Eval version and use for as
long as you need to. Once purchased I will
update your user area with the full version
to download.
I’m happy to help with questions if
needed.
Regards
Dave
Data 7
www.download.com[2] Our Web Site
www.data7consultancy.com[3] Data 7 EDS Help files
www.data7consultancy.com[4] The FREE Data 7 Web Site builder
websitebuilder.data7consultancy.com
by lizathesewinghen 25 Aug 2008
Hello Dave - I'm Liza from Derby - not many miles away from you! I'm struggling to learn how to digitise and was considering downloading your free trial but was a bit perplexed to read that the designs can't be exported to embroidery machines. Now I'm probably the class dunce but what do you do with the design? Am I right in thinking you neeed to save it to disc or usb sticks so you can use then it in your machine. I have a Designer 1. It s kind of you to offer your help - thank you!
by jrob 25 Aug 2008
Liza,that's only the trial version that does allow you to export as I understand his statement.
by dave 26 Aug 2008
That's right jrob. Liza the full version allows you to export to over 20 formats including the US home formats
by dave 26 Aug 2008
Hi Liza
i forgot to say that if you need some help
then feel free to email me. There are some
docs that might help here http://www.data7consultan
cy.com/emb...
by cloey 14 Sep 2008
I have this design that was hand done by my greatgrandmother. Needless to say the tablecloth is falling apart and I would I guess like to have it digitise. I don't know what to do or where to begin. I asked the "cute family a while ago, but noone gat back to me. Please help.
19 Hi Charlie, I finally gave this program a
test run and must agree with Marjialexa, it
is, in my opinion, not suitable for a
beginner, but rather more for someone who
already knows how to digitise and who is
not software or computer challenged.
You could always buy it for the great price
offered and put it aside until you gain
knowledge on digitising using a more basic
and intuitive program, and that would be no
different than me shelving my Pulse
(Professional Digitising Program) while I
learn to digitise on Embird.....
The only drawback is, that once you start
using a program such as Embird, it is so
fantastic, so user friendly, feature
packed, does absolutely everything you
could ever need of it, and is the best
supported program of any I have used in my
20 plus years in the IT industry, that you
may find, like I have, that I never want to
use anything else.
The Data7 conversion program I did not like
at all. i found it cumbersome and I loathe
popups that make me wait even one minute
before i can close it and then pops up
again making me wait a second time before I
can close out of the program. I also did
not like that it was a separate program.
Especially considering, that Embird's
design format conversion is part of the
main Embird program and you can select a
complete Folder, with multiple sub-folders,
each one full of designs and you can
convert the lot in one go.
Yes, I was and am impressed with Embird,
enough to buy the whole suite, even though
I already had a Professional Digitising
program costing thousands of dollars more.
Trying to compare Data 7 and Embird is sort
of like comparing apples and bananas.
Having said all this, every new thing in
life presents us with a new learning
challenge, how much of a challenge we each
find the same things to be, is governed by
each individual person's capacity and
eagerness to learn. Only YOU know how good
your learning skills are, how easy or
difficult it is for you to absorb knowledge
and how much time you have spare to commit
to learning and how much help and support
you might need.
I hope my evaluation helps you make an
informed decision. hugs n roses, Meganne
by dave 29 Aug 2008
Hi Meganne
Thanks for having at look at the Data 7
EDS. All views & comments welcome.
Although I agree with some of what you are
saying above you are wrong on a couple of
accounts.
1. The conversion module “is” part of
the main Data 7 EDS program. We also
supply this separately for FREE which I
assume this is what you have also. The
reason for the popups is exactly what is
says, it’s for advertising only on the
FREE and eval version. A donation of £5
for the standalone conversion program
removes these. The popups only appear in
the eval version and “not” in main
program.
2. Again, while I agree with the digitising
is not exactly for beginners (as they would
need to know how to digitise) it is very
easy to trial so as to become familiar
quickly. The point and block editing and
monogramming however is IMHO quite simple.
I offer the Data 7 EDS for £25 to make it
very affordable to beginners who aren’t
sure which direction they want to go in. If
they find it is not exactly what they want
then not a lot lost. They can still use
the monogramming, editing and conversion
module (without popups) though with over 20
formats including US home formats.
The conversion module is being updated to
allow the user to convert designs all in
one go either by multi-selecting designs or
by selecting a folder. This should be out
in a soon. Anyone that has the software
already will be notified and get a free
update.
I have a version Embird myself and do agree
that it is a cool program.
Kindest regards
Dave
by meganne 29 Aug 2008
Thanks Dave, I did realise the popups would
only be in the eval. version, and apologise
for not mentioning that, still they really
annoyed me coming up when they did.
And as a new digitiser, I don't even
know what Point and Block editing means,
let alone be capable of doing it! LOL!
You see beginners are just that, beginning,
and most of us don't even know the
terminology let alone how to do it.
Yet with Embird, I was already digitising
successfully after only 8 weeks and without
reading any manuals, just viewing the few
installed tutorials, trial and error and
playing with the program. I still
don't know what the terminology is for
most of what I'm doing but my fellow
cuties here are all very happy with the
designs I have created for them.
It was pointed out to me just yesterday by
my 40 year old son, that when a person has
been doing something for a very long time
they often forget how difficult it was for
them back when they first started and how I
should remember that not everyone is
blessed with the ability to learn quickly
and retain what they have learnt from one
sitting to the next. (he is trying to learn
MS Word and I was an MS Sales Partner so
Trying to teach him over the phone became
quite, shall we say
'heated'.LOL!)
It is also very difficult for some ladies,
some of whom may have never even used a
computer until they get their first
embroidery machine and find, to their
horror, that to do all the great designs or
even to make changes, resize or change
formats they must learn to use some
digitising program, But first they have to
learn to use a computer, it can be very
daunting for those of certain age and I
don't think there are many Embroidery
programs that take all these things into
account.
This is the reasoning behind my thinking
Data7 would be too difficult for most
beginners, in comparison to Embird.
Your conversion enhancements will be a a
big improvement and make that
program/feature a much more attractive
proposition especially as a standalone
program for those just wishing to convert
formats, pity you couldn't add
re-sizing into the mix, then it would be
really desirable! Probably one of the most
FAQ's on this site is where to find an
inexpensive program to re-size and convert
designs....
Now I really must get to bed at 2:30 AM
Thanks so much for responding, I hope to
revisit Data 7 EDS when I have become more
proficient as a digitiser. regards, Meganne
52288 Hey Charlie, If my headache is gone
tomorrow I'll download and check it
out. Don't know if my opinions will be
worth much though since my software
background makes all programs very easy for
me to master. I can at least advise based
on comparison with my three other
digitising programs, Without using any
manuals or help files, so i'll do
that.
Based on the letter from Dave I would think
support would not be an issue though future
upgrades seem unlikely, perhaps Dave would
address this query if he reads this
message. hugs n roses, Meganne
by dave 26 Aug 2008
Hi Meganne
If there is enough interest and people
purchase then new development will be done
if needed but its now designed to be used
for starters for monogramming, editing
etc...
marjialexa is also correct that it is
manual digitising which gives you full
control but requires a bit more knowledge.
this will come with time.
52288 Hi marjialexa
I did see a link from cuteembroidery to my
site ;-).
I hope you find the Data 7 EDS useful as a
start package. It also has the built in
embroidery design converter with around 20
formats.
If anyone has any questions I'm happy
to help.
Dave
19 Probably not quite normal for the program creator to drop in, hee hee hee. However, being a computer guru/wizard, I suspect Dave has *ways* of knowing when his website info has been posted to forums and such. I think it's great that he took the time to tell us what his program was about, and what kind of support you'd get with it. From what I looked at, the program would be great for digitizers. I'm in the process of finding out about the trial version, so I'll keep you posted what I find out. Thanks for the link, Charlie. Hugs & good stitches, Marji
22887 OK is that normal for a program creator to answer a Q? I am like in shock here and want to buy the program just because Dave dropped in!
by americangirl 25 Aug 2008
Will this do the kind of things like you already do? I know I have the dumb questions. This sounds really cheap to me.
19807 Hi, Charlie!! I looked this over, and the program is really neat, well written, does anything you could want. BUT!!!! If you know how to use software, it's great. It gives you the manual ability to do what my Digitizer Pro does automatically in some cases. I may dowload this and play with it, just because I like the control, the ability to tell the program what to do, rather than figure out what the program decided to do by itself. Again, but. I learned to speak DOS many years ago, and I can see that the program writer also speaks the same language. I love it. If you are computer challenged, and have never done digitizing, I think this might be a problem for you. It's an excellent program, especially for professionals. Tajima, which they also sell & service, is an industrial machine. In other words, if you know what you're doing, you could run like blazes with this. If you don't already know, and are computer program challenged, you might as well be in a three legged race tied to an elephant. For your experience level, you must start with something user-friendly. And something you can get lots of tutorials on, if you care to do those. I can't do tutorials, they drive me nuts, I have to have a manual. You really need to talk to Teri or some of the other gals about Embird, or a program like that. I have Digitizer Pro, which I think is excellent, but it's way expensive. My DH didn't mind spending the $ because he knew I could be using it within a week. We were both programmers. I really can sympathize, though, because I'm cell phone challenged. I won't have one of the things, cause I can't figure them out. But for anyone else who digitizes, this looks like a really nice program, and it certainly is inexpensive. My guess is that they made their money on it for years, now their main thing is web development, so they can afford to offer the program a lot cheaper. Cool!! Best of luck, Marji
by mops 25 Aug 2008
Thanks for getting into this. I was wondering about downloading it and seeing for myself. I think I'll play with it for a while. The price is so ridiculously low, it's worth the fun!
by marjialexa 25 Aug 2008
Yes, looks like fun indeed, Martine, they have a couple PDF's with what the control buttons do, don't need more manual than that, I think. So many buttons, so much control. Looks cool. M
by misscharlie 25 Aug 2008
I am so glad I inadvertantly did something good! BTW yes Dos and math are both foreign languages for me so thx for the heads up. I will steer clear of this one lol.
22887 There is a 7 day free download. I don't know the firm that's offering it, and if the software delivers what it says it does it is almost too good to be true! So maybe you could try it out?
by misscharlie 24 Aug 2008
I did DL but can't figure out how to use it, I'm not too bright need a manual, a video tutorial, and a teacher all standing around me.
by mops 25 Aug 2008
In that case you are better off buying something else. SophieSew is a free program that comes with tutorials, no manual and no lessons, but at least it has the tutorials. Although I must say I don't find it very easy, because I'm so used to my own software I'm doing the wrong things without thinking.
42478 It sounds way to cheap to be a comprehensive digitizer.Where did you download the free trial version. Couldn't find it on this site.
by misscharlie 25 Aug 2008
oh I'm sorry I downloaded the conversion tool lol not the program. I guess that makes a big difference. Sorry for the bother, but still wondered if it was a good program. *
21605 I'm still trying to figure out how to digitize on Embird so I won't be of much help. If anyone who knows what they are doing thinks this is good software I'll have to check it out. I'm with you charlie, I at least need a book and of course I don't have one!
9253 Well the first thing this is the first I've heard of them. they r evidently only compatible with windows XP. they r out of the US so how helpful will they b if U have problems. I know embird is also, but my dealer knows all about embird, are they reliable if something is not just right. Wish I could b of help to u misscharlie but I know nothing about them, mayb some of the others will know more *4U
by misscharlie 24 Aug 2008
Guess I will go to youtube and see if there is a tutorial on basic digitizing
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Thank you for being so kind to offer this information.